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| my 7 year old daughter is starting to snowboard help plz? | |
hard boots or not? |
tim pate | 01/25/02 | |
Plates |
kent | 01/25/02 | |
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Youngest one ;) |
Maciek | 01/25/02 | |
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For the Love of God Man, Go with the Plates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Weasel | 01/25/02 | |
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Whatever she wants to do. |
JM | 01/25/02 | |
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The Council |
Jack Michaud | 01/25/02 | |
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That reminds me |
m! | 01/25/02 | |
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softs! |
JC | 01/25/02 | |
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Not so fast... |
Eric | 01/25/02 | |
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softs |
JC | 01/25/02 | |
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Snowplow |
Neil G | 01/25/02 | |
Date: January 25, 2002 09:31 AM
Author: tim pate (flash2ace@yahoo.com)
Subject: hard boots or not?
my daughter is seven and she is very tall. i believe she weighs around 60 pounds and she wears a size 2 shoe, my question is should i start her out carving with the hard boot and binding gig or should i let her learn on soft bindings? and what size board do you guys suggest i get her? i was looking at a lamar 125 for her but should i look for some hard bindings for it or just purchase the lamar soft binding, i know hardboots would probably be harder for her to learn in but she likes the way i ride and trys to imitate my style, shes just riding a old 153 k2 wright now and can turn it heelside and toeside without falling and i think that is realy good for a 7 year old. she has very strong legs and they are long for a 7 year old. she races bmx bikes in the summer so she rides bikes alot any suggestions on this would be great thanks ahead of time guys! to hard boot or not to hard boot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: January 25, 2002 09:53 AM
Author: kent (funkastorious@hotmail.com)
Subject: Plates
My friends with kids have found plates to be more effective. You can easily find the tiny "Nordy" ski boots or a similar pair to use with Burton's kids carrier.
A comparable "soft" set-up in that size typically has one strap and no support.
Younger ripper I've seen on plates is (was) 2.5.
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Date: January 25, 2002 10:14 AM
Author: Maciek (mmsamselATmindspring.com)
Subject: Youngest one ;)
I saw on race course riding snowboard. The boy was something about 1.5 years old :)
It was nice view. His dad was leading him on gates... but the youngest racer was though and finished GS just fine :)))
I heard of the kid that it had skis on his feet about the same time most kids start to walk.
Unbelivable!... but true and very nice. The youngest racer in Mid-Atlantic Snowboard Series and he has older brothers that race on swnoboard either. The kid is kinda mascot of M.A.S.S. I should have somewhere video of him from races.
Our little snowboard carver and racer!
Have good runs,
Maciek
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Date: January 25, 2002 11:22 AM
Author: Weasel (weasel@genuity.com)
Subject: For the Love of God Man, Go with the Plates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would recomend the plates it saves the where and tear of that first day learning. My seven year old nephew is learing on weekends at Sunday River. Sunny breeze in falmouth maine has a 145 Factory Prime. and I think they still have the kids carrier bindings. If you are going to be anywhere near sunday river give me a call and she is welcome to demo a kids carving board. I actually own a 135 factory Prime. Later Weasel
781-262-2475 days
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Date: January 25, 2002 02:51 PM
Author: JM (joemarksz@aol.com)
Subject: Whatever she wants to do.
I had two kids start out on plates and reached a very high level very quickly. They started at around 8 or 9 They were both skiers since age 3. When I switched to riding they wanted to as well and they wanted to do it "like dad" so they wanted plates. The sad part of this story is that they are both 15 now (twins) and they both have gone over to soft setups because at this age they are more interested in being like their peers and not like their dad. One thing I am certain of is that the years riding plates has made them a cut above the other kids they hang with in terms of riding skill. It seems that no matter what you want to do on a board it pays to know your edges. It will be interesting to see if they ever go back to plates later on in life.
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Date: January 25, 2002 10:42 AM
Author: Jack Michaud (jmichaud@munis.com)
Subject: The Council
You are wise to bring her before us.
Fortunate you are that we are able to identify her at this young
age.
The force is strong with this one.
She must be trained in the Jedi art.
Your padawan learner she will be.
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Date: January 25, 2002 01:16 PM
Author: m! (istp@sympatico.ca)
Subject: That reminds me
I was at a local hill a few weeks ago and I saw this itty bitty fella on a Coiler. The father of the little guy told me that it was the first board that his son has ever had. It looks like Bruce is doing his part to promote up-and-coming carvers of all ages. Pretty cool.
Little kids are amazing. They seem to be able to learn anything that you can throw at them. If it is in your budget, I wouldn't worry about hard boots being too difficult - just get em. In a few weeks you will have to buy a little racing suit to match.
Mark
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Date: January 25, 2002 01:47 PM
Author: JC (chandlerjeff@hotmail.com)
Subject: softs!
don't start on plates!....start on a freeride (soft boot) set-up. get her to learn to freeride and control/manipulate the board with the help of a semi-flexible boot. this will undoubtedly make her a better rider down the road when/if she wants to ride plates.
she needs to learn how to develop performance with the lower joints - she will not be able to do this on a carving/hard boot set-up.
also, a soft board is very important...there is plenty of equipment out there now that is not too heavy for kids, as in the past.
stick with the soft set-up until she is a competent freerider and using the knees/ankles to get the board to perform, then bring in the option of hard boots...this could take a few seasons...you may end-up waiting until she has developed to muscle strength to accomplish this performance.
i've seen too many kids trying to haul a heavy, stiff race board and boots through a turn -- it does nothing for the development of their snowboarding skill, and it butchers their stance and balance. also, many of the best plate riders are equally competent on a soft setup for this exact reason -- they know how to use the lower body.
c'mon - give her a chance!
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Date: January 25, 2002 04:04 PM
Author: Eric (ORCarve@reed.edu)
Subject: Not so fast...
If a 7 year old can work a 153, she should be ok on plates. Hell, it tookme till the end of my first season (high school, 160+ lbs) before I felt good on my 153. I remember suffering through softies, which didn't do anything for having me get low or balanced before finding joy in a hard set up. If she can ride now, why double the learning curve. I still don't understand why they teach snowplow to skiers first, then bring them back to paralell. No need to make it harder by relearning stuff if she has the option to start on plates. At her age, she won't have the same weird hangups or sloppy technique I know I at least had when I tried to switch.
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Date: January 25, 2002 04:12 PM
Author: JC (chandlerjeff@hotmail.com)
Subject: softs
there's a huge difference between "working" a 153 and just turning it toe and heelside.
performance will be sacrificed...trust me...she will be a better all-round rider if she learns to ride softs first.
what's to say you wouldn't be a much better rider now had stuck with it, and learned to ride softs?
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Date: January 25, 2002 04:20 PM
Author: Neil G (gendzwil@sedsystems.ca)
Subject: Snowplow
How would you teach a skier, if you didn't start with wedge turns?
Neil
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